Map, Atlas, Supplement, and Index Collectors

Comment by Jeremy on November 3, 2011 at 11:59am

The two-sided map supplements are uniquely National Geographic.

My interest is not as much about archiving them, but more into their display.

The Hindsight Frame is a way to display both sides of these maps, vertically or horizontally, and change posters easily.

My website is: http://www.hindsightframes.com

The comprehensive list that Philip made is great !

 

Comment by Philip Riviere on November 3, 2011 at 6:50pm

Welcome Jeremy to NG Map & Suppliment Collectors (and displayers !) I personally do display some of my maps but I use pushpins in the corners. These maps (my 3rd copies of a map) I keep for display and not for sale because of the holes in the corners.  

Your specialty is the  more modern (Post 1970) double sided maps and the frames to display them. I will be posting large pictures(500k) of these 1970-2011 maps(both sides) on this site in the future.

Comment by Melvin L. De Vilbiss on November 5, 2011 at 9:14pm

List%20of%20Plate%20Titles%20for%20the%20first%20XII%20NGS%20Volume...

With regard to topic number 2, this excel spreadsheet is a compiled list of all "plates" for the first 13 National Geographic Volumes (1888-1902). The use of plates included maps, drawings and pictures among other things, of normal page size and "larger" than the printed page. Some in this later category were supplemental inserts, but most were foldouts bound into the magazine.

 

 

Comment by Melvin L. De Vilbiss on November 5, 2011 at 9:25pm

Philip,

The reprints were from 1888 through 1907.

The number of 1000 official reprint copies represents "only" the individual issues.

It has never been "officially" determined how many sets of the bound format the National Geographic Society published.

Of course, this also means the total number of reprinted supplements that accompanied these bound sets, many of which have been separated from their original issues, has never been accounted for.

Mel

Comment by Philip Riviere on November 5, 2011 at 10:46pm

Welcome Mel to the NG map & suppliment collectors.

Thanks for posting the spreadsheet on early plates & maps.. It clarifies some issues for me. I have acquired bound  volumes 1-6 and 10  in book format (reprints only.... on a retired teacher's pension)...I'm trying to get ALL the maps...I think I need only 16 more maps (Years: 1896,1898, 1900,1902,1904 and 1 map in 05)  to have a complete set. 

Comment by Melvin L. De Vilbiss on November 6, 2011 at 1:43pm

Philip,

I am curious about topic #4. Have you observed and annotated this anomaly, i.e. reprint supplements issued with these reprint publications that “do not have” the word reprint on them?

Mel

Comment by Melvin L. De Vilbiss on November 7, 2011 at 2:20pm

Phil,

I did some quick research to answer my own question relating to topic #4 above.

Background:

I do not collect the reprint (individual) issues, but do have a complete set of bound reprint issues and have used these as my reference.

Also, I have only six of the first 36 issues of the magazine and cannot reference the original condition or format for these magazines.

What I found:

For the first twenty years of publications, all “larger than printed page” pictures/charts/maps/etc. were tipped into the issue they were published in, with the following exceptions:

Vol.       #            Date                    Title

*VII       3            Mar 1896           Plate X - Chart – Submarine Cables of the World et al

IX           4            Apr 1898            Plate 4 - The Gold and Coal Fields of Alaska et al

X            6            Jun 1899             Plate 5 - Theater of Military Operations in Luzon 1899

X            12          Dec 1899            Plate XIV - Map of the Seat of War in Africa 1899

*XI         9            Sep 1900            Plate 9 - Map of North Eastern China

XIII         1            Jan 1902             (Not plates) Two (2) maps – Progress Map of Signal Corps et al

Results:

Reprint items “larger than the printed page” tipped into their corresponding issue were NOT labeled with the word reprint. Of those items NOT tipped in, but included as an insert, most included the word “Reprint” with the exception of the two items “*” asterisked above.

Comment by Philip Riviere on November 7, 2011 at 6:02pm

Makes me wonder how many early "reprint"  maps are being sold as originals...

Comment by Melvin L. De Vilbiss on November 7, 2011 at 8:33pm

This is possible, especially for the uninitiated.

However, the following are reasons why it shouldn’t be too great a problem:

What was tipped into the reprints was also tipped into the originals (to the best of my knowledge). Therefore, there should not be a plethora of loose articles either in demand or for sale, i.e. they would only be sold as part of a complete issue (both reprint and original).

The reprint paper was specifically chosen by the NGS to make it distinct from the original issues; hence, the well advised should be able to readily detect the differences.

Only two items that were, in their original format, loose inserts were not labeled with the word “reprint” in their reprint format. Here again, the material should make it easy to detect a newer production, but even so, there exists only two such examples – and how many people are trying to locate those two items?

By the way, I believe you can order from the National Geographic Society reproductions of all their supplements.

Comment by Philip Riviere on November 8, 2011 at 12:57am

Yes, I know of the NG Society selling reproductions but only from their Great Britain site. Not found on the U.S. site... 

 What would be the differences be between repos, originals, and reprints?

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