Thanks very much for looking into Thomas McKee for me. If I discover any more information about his photographs and NGM, I will certainly you let you know!
That is amazing! (Harry C. Mann - NGM records and correspondence) - Brand new information on the nature of his efforts with National Geographic. Past biographic information only alludes to NGM in general terms (probably all that was available).
My mailing information is:
Thomas D. Coates
1201 Heathcliff Drive
Virginia Beach, VA 23464
Here is a brief quote excerpt from a bio of Harry C. Mann –
“…He loved the endless rapture of the sea, sky and dunes…With practice, Mann became one of he foremost artist photographers in the United States, his pictures winning accolades from London and Paris to New York. His obvious photographic skill led to publication in the National Geographic Society magazine as well as a number of newspapers nationwide.”
The Sunrise City by the Sea: A tribute to photographer Carroll H. Walker, Sr. Norfolk, Virginia - Amy Waters Yarsinske, Carroll Walker - Hardcover - April 1994 - Washington Book Distributors
Hi Cathy.
Hope that you can help. I spent a few fruitless hours yesterday being shunted from one NGS tel. number to an other, and then back again, without getting the least bit of information.
1) I am trying to establish a list of the NGM cover variants of the last few years. There is even one (Nov. 03) alluded to and illustrated in the March 04 Forum feature of the magazine. I know of a few others: Jul. 04, May 06, May 07 (2 here). These are the only ones I have or have photos of.
What do I have to do to get such a list, which is a very basic requirement for a varieties collector and student such as I?
Presence or absence of bar codes or other minor variants (banners...) would also be quite useful.
2) How can I obtain copies of same, which must be stocked somewhere.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
I still hope that you can come up with more pertinent and useful information next week, as you stated in earlier Emails. This last one here is at best, not really informative or useful.
1) Stating that there is no comprehensive list of cover variants to me means: OK, there is no cubbyhole with such a list. But the information has to exist in a number of different areas at the NGS, and if somehow it doesn't, well it should. The information has to exist where NGM's are printed, in administration, at the marketing division, and does (or should) exist where past issues are stocked.
2) The reference to newstand editions is only of secondary interest to me (for now), except where newstand editions might feature a different cover.
3) Your 9 "balance of run" zones are useful to know, and might all indicate variations in ad content, for example (which will interest other collectors), but I doubt that they indicate 9 basic cover variants. I assume that they include I or 2 basic cover variants, which is what I want to know (and order).
4) "before or while that particular issue is binding" I assume that this means before or during the month of issue. OK, this is what I want to order, as long as they do feature a different basic cover photo.
5) As to the statement that "special covers usually run out" and that all "overs" are mixed together in inventory, I had best not comment, because I am still trying to be polite and to get somewhere here. Suffice it to say that if they are, they shouldn"t, for many obvious reasons, without even thinking of the shadier possibilities.
I think that the NGS owes dilligent collectors ( members) of everything that they put out, and particularly the Magazine a little more respect and a more cooperative attitude. Wasn"t that the point of of this forum, The Collectors Corner?
Still hoping to get a more personal and informative response from you in regards to recent basic cover variants on English editions of NGM.
It would be helpful to at least know if these cover variants number: a) one or two a year, b) one or two a month, c) three or more a month (average #, maybe). This would go a long way in determining possible interest to collectors.
Also immediately helpful, would be the possibility of having a sort of standing order for all new basic cover variants, among your nine "balance of run" editions. And possibly, but not necessarily, adding bar coded issues to these. I suspect that some of the cover variants might exist only as newstand editions, while this is not the case for others.
Still hoping that you can help me in these matters, and possibly put me in contact with someone who might share more information wih us.
I apologize that you have been waiting for a reply. I did not receive an e-mail notification and so did not realize you were not satisfied with the information I sent along. It was obtained from various individuals who work with the design and printing of NGM.
I do realize that collectors want comprehensive lists and am not dismissive of that concern. And it may be that the information you seek does lie in various corners of the Geographic. However, as the product line has grown but the staff continues to shrink, it may not be possible for us to run down the answers. But we do try, and I have a printout of your questions that I will take home this weekend to study.
Yes, a standing order for all new basic cover variants would be very helpful. Retracing past issue variants internationally involves a lot of work and costly shipping and it just shouldn't be so.
Another very useful bit of information would be: when was the first of these cover vars.printed.
A NGM "Forum" article (Mar 04) refers to a Nov 03 var.(a newstand ed.) and now I have found one for Sept 03 on Modern Slavery (and which is not a newstand edition). Are there any earlier ones?
Thank you again for your efforts in these troubled times.
Could you please clarify for me when you say that I "can contact Sandy Ahner for samples of past issues". Does this mean that she might be a source for some of the cover variants, and if so, on what basis...
Another idea that occurs to me is: couldn't I have a UK (and/or) Singapore subscription redirected to me in Canada (while maintaining it's normal content). There must be some provision for redirecting subscriptions, yes?
I know its not your fault, but it blows my mind that an organization like NGS
seems to want to keep secret, or just can't be bothered to allow long-time collectors access to recent cover variants that they publish and send out by the thousands (at least) every month.
Still haven't heard anything from S. Ahner, nor anybody else.
Have acquired a number of the cover variants. The process is relatively expensive, espcially since the condition is very mixed. I stll don't know how many are out there, and those subscriptions would at least solve the better part of the "problem". How about it?
Cathy
You can no longer add photos under you main photo tab. The website freezes my computer and have to ctrl-alt-del out of it. All other tabs work fine.
Ps: you have a porno addition under the pseudoname "Kayleigh Lamb"
John Mahoney
Is there a way to REMOVE a discussion thread between members? In working out a transaction with another member, I left my son's address in such a thread, not realizing anyone can google my name and find the entire discussion! I'm very upset about this and I cannot seem to find a way to remove it from this site. Even Facebook allows for someone to remove any comments from within their own thread if they no longer want them available.
To any body who may know
I have a December 1969 volume 136 number 6 edition of national geographic with the sounds of the space age record still in it. It has never been removed from the book and this magazine as well as the others i have are in really good condition and I was curious as to how much this particular magazine may be worth is there any one that can help me with this out there please and thank you
Dear Mrs.Hunter have you any information for me about my message on the 1969 issue of national geographic with the sounds of the space age sound track in it or know of any one who might
1) I just joined the new version of the Corner (very nice BTW) even though I have been a collector dealer on the list for many years. I cannot seem to be able to upload a picture for my profile. I follow the instructions and no type or size photo seems to work. I get a failure message that says try another photo. Help?
2) I just announced a new webpage that I have uploaded with the Collectors Guide that I produced back in 2000. Could you direct me to who can update that info on the dealers list? The website should now be HTTP//:JBCarey.net
Carole
Thanks very much for looking into Thomas McKee for me. If I discover any more information about his photographs and NGM, I will certainly you let you know!
Thanks again,
Carole Graham
May 27, 2008
Thomas D. Coates
That is amazing! (Harry C. Mann - NGM records and correspondence) - Brand new information on the nature of his efforts with National Geographic. Past biographic information only alludes to NGM in general terms (probably all that was available).
My mailing information is:
Thomas D. Coates
1201 Heathcliff Drive
Virginia Beach, VA 23464
Here is a brief quote excerpt from a bio of Harry C. Mann –
“…He loved the endless rapture of the sea, sky and dunes…With practice, Mann became one of he foremost artist photographers in the United States, his pictures winning accolades from London and Paris to New York. His obvious photographic skill led to publication in the National Geographic Society magazine as well as a number of newspapers nationwide.”
The Sunrise City by the Sea: A tribute to photographer Carroll H. Walker, Sr. Norfolk, Virginia - Amy Waters Yarsinske, Carroll Walker - Hardcover - April 1994 - Washington Book Distributors
Thank you again Ms. Hunter.
Thomas D. Coates
Jun 4, 2008
Thomas D. Coates
Take care,
Thomas D. Coates
Jun 4, 2008
Jordi
Thank you very much for your information. !!
If I found other European or Spanish dealers, I will inform them.
Kind Regards,
Jordi
Jun 24, 2008
Jean Thibault
Hope that you can help. I spent a few fruitless hours yesterday being shunted from one NGS tel. number to an other, and then back again, without getting the least bit of information.
1) I am trying to establish a list of the NGM cover variants of the last few years. There is even one (Nov. 03) alluded to and illustrated in the March 04 Forum feature of the magazine. I know of a few others: Jul. 04, May 06, May 07 (2 here). These are the only ones I have or have photos of.
What do I have to do to get such a list, which is a very basic requirement for a varieties collector and student such as I?
Presence or absence of bar codes or other minor variants (banners...) would also be quite useful.
2) How can I obtain copies of same, which must be stocked somewhere.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Feb 11, 2009
Jean Thibault
1) Stating that there is no comprehensive list of cover variants to me means: OK, there is no cubbyhole with such a list. But the information has to exist in a number of different areas at the NGS, and if somehow it doesn't, well it should. The information has to exist where NGM's are printed, in administration, at the marketing division, and does (or should) exist where past issues are stocked.
2) The reference to newstand editions is only of secondary interest to me (for now), except where newstand editions might feature a different cover.
3) Your 9 "balance of run" zones are useful to know, and might all indicate variations in ad content, for example (which will interest other collectors), but I doubt that they indicate 9 basic cover variants. I assume that they include I or 2 basic cover variants, which is what I want to know (and order).
4) "before or while that particular issue is binding" I assume that this means before or during the month of issue. OK, this is what I want to order, as long as they do feature a different basic cover photo.
5) As to the statement that "special covers usually run out" and that all "overs" are mixed together in inventory, I had best not comment, because I am still trying to be polite and to get somewhere here. Suffice it to say that if they are, they shouldn"t, for many obvious reasons, without even thinking of the shadier possibilities.
I think that the NGS owes dilligent collectors ( members) of everything that they put out, and particularly the Magazine a little more respect and a more cooperative attitude. Wasn"t that the point of of this forum, The Collectors Corner?
Feb 14, 2009
Jean Thibault
It would be helpful to at least know if these cover variants number: a) one or two a year, b) one or two a month, c) three or more a month (average #, maybe). This would go a long way in determining possible interest to collectors.
Also immediately helpful, would be the possibility of having a sort of standing order for all new basic cover variants, among your nine "balance of run" editions. And possibly, but not necessarily, adding bar coded issues to these. I suspect that some of the cover variants might exist only as newstand editions, while this is not the case for others.
Still hoping that you can help me in these matters, and possibly put me in contact with someone who might share more information wih us.
Feb 19, 2009
Cathy Hunter
I apologize that you have been waiting for a reply. I did not receive an e-mail notification and so did not realize you were not satisfied with the information I sent along. It was obtained from various individuals who work with the design and printing of NGM.
I do realize that collectors want comprehensive lists and am not dismissive of that concern. And it may be that the information you seek does lie in various corners of the Geographic. However, as the product line has grown but the staff continues to shrink, it may not be possible for us to run down the answers. But we do try, and I have a printout of your questions that I will take home this weekend to study.
Cathy
Feb 20, 2009
Jean Thibault
Yes, a standing order for all new basic cover variants would be very helpful. Retracing past issue variants internationally involves a lot of work and costly shipping and it just shouldn't be so.
Another very useful bit of information would be: when was the first of these cover vars.printed.
A NGM "Forum" article (Mar 04) refers to a Nov 03 var.(a newstand ed.) and now I have found one for Sept 03 on Modern Slavery (and which is not a newstand edition). Are there any earlier ones?
Mar 2, 2009
Jean Thibault
Thank you again for your efforts in these troubled times.
Could you please clarify for me when you say that I "can contact Sandy Ahner for samples of past issues". Does this mean that she might be a source for some of the cover variants, and if so, on what basis...
Another idea that occurs to me is: couldn't I have a UK (and/or) Singapore subscription redirected to me in Canada (while maintaining it's normal content). There must be some provision for redirecting subscriptions, yes?
I know its not your fault, but it blows my mind that an organization like NGS
seems to want to keep secret, or just can't be bothered to allow long-time collectors access to recent cover variants that they publish and send out by the thousands (at least) every month.
Mar 10, 2009
Scott T. Shier
Thank you for the updates on this cover variants matter. I appreciate your time to do so.
I just now realized you joined my Collectables/Ephemera Group....welcome! and thanks for the comment about the scrap book someone made.
- Scott
Mar 11, 2009
Scott T. Shier
my direct email is:
joekool96@msn.com
Thank you so much for finding this for me, I look forward to hearing it. Like I mentioned, I had no knowledge of this March until just recently.
- Scott
Mar 18, 2009
Jean Thibault
Still haven't heard anything from S. Ahner, nor anybody else.
Have acquired a number of the cover variants. The process is relatively expensive, espcially since the condition is very mixed. I stll don't know how many are out there, and those subscriptions would at least solve the better part of the "problem". How about it?
Apr 8, 2009
John Mahoney
You can no longer add photos under you main photo tab. The website freezes my computer and have to ctrl-alt-del out of it. All other tabs work fine.
Ps: you have a porno addition under the pseudoname "Kayleigh Lamb"
John Mahoney
Jun 30, 2009
Sentimental lady
Is there a way to REMOVE a discussion thread between members? In working out a transaction with another member, I left my son's address in such a thread, not realizing anyone can google my name and find the entire discussion! I'm very upset about this and I cannot seem to find a way to remove it from this site. Even Facebook allows for someone to remove any comments from within their own thread if they no longer want them available.
Please, can you assist me?
Thank you!
amethyst1928@yahoo.com
Aug 15, 2009
Daniel Hobbs
I have a December 1969 volume 136 number 6 edition of national geographic with the sounds of the space age record still in it. It has never been removed from the book and this magazine as well as the others i have are in really good condition and I was curious as to how much this particular magazine may be worth is there any one that can help me with this out there please and thank you
Apr 29, 2010
Daniel Hobbs
Apr 29, 2010
EDUARD DORNEANU
Aug 15, 2012
John B. Carey
Hi Cathy,
I have two requests:
1) I just joined the new version of the Corner (very nice BTW) even though I have been a collector dealer on the list for many years. I cannot seem to be able to upload a picture for my profile. I follow the instructions and no type or size photo seems to work. I get a failure message that says try another photo. Help?
2) I just announced a new webpage that I have uploaded with the Collectors Guide that I produced back in 2000. Could you direct me to who can update that info on the dealers list? The website should now be HTTP//:JBCarey.net
Thank you for all the work you do.
John B. Carey
San Jose CA. (West section of the list)
Dec 19, 2013