Misprinted November 1985 Hologram Cover - National Geographic's Collectors Corner2024-03-28T14:54:41Zhttp://ngscollectors.ning.com/forum/topics/1029239:Topic:6809?feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks Jeff you have been ver…tag:ngscollectors.ning.com,2015-03-06:1029239:Comment:1036622015-03-06T21:34:29.388ZChris McIlwainhttp://ngscollectors.ning.com/profile/ChrisMcIlwain
<p>Thanks Jeff you have been very helpful! </p>
<p>I am glad I finally have some information on this after so many years! I really have no interest in getting rid of it, so a value for insurance purposes is great. I don't really have a big collection, but knew even as a kid to stash it away and keep it relatively safe.</p>
<p>Have a great day!</p>
<p>Chris</p>
<p>Thanks Jeff you have been very helpful! </p>
<p>I am glad I finally have some information on this after so many years! I really have no interest in getting rid of it, so a value for insurance purposes is great. I don't really have a big collection, but knew even as a kid to stash it away and keep it relatively safe.</p>
<p>Have a great day!</p>
<p>Chris</p> If you received one through t…tag:ngscollectors.ning.com,2015-03-06:1029239:Comment:1036612015-03-06T21:13:43.143ZJeffry Personshttp://ngscollectors.ning.com/profile/JeffryPersons
<p>If you received one through the mail then there are probably more out there. I have no idea what it would be worth; it depends how much a collector is willing to pay. I would say that you would be hard pressed to find anyone who would pay over $500. I would not have paid that much for it and I have quite a large collection of oddities. But so far there are three misprints that have come to light with this issue so it may command a higher price if you just hold on to it for awhile. If…</p>
<p>If you received one through the mail then there are probably more out there. I have no idea what it would be worth; it depends how much a collector is willing to pay. I would say that you would be hard pressed to find anyone who would pay over $500. I would not have paid that much for it and I have quite a large collection of oddities. But so far there are three misprints that have come to light with this issue so it may command a higher price if you just hold on to it for awhile. If you are just looking for a value for insurance purposes than I would insure it for $1000+.</p>
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<p>Jeff</p> Thanks for the information Je…tag:ngscollectors.ning.com,2015-03-06:1029239:Comment:1033812015-03-06T19:27:10.483ZChris McIlwainhttp://ngscollectors.ning.com/profile/ChrisMcIlwain
<p>Thanks for the information Jeff. I have always wondered about it. It's one of the few things I actually kept from my childhood because I had never seen another one. Do you have any idea of the value of such an oddity? I know you have not seen the condition in person and I am no expert in condition buy any means, but I think it's in pretty good condition.</p>
<p>I truly appreciate you giving me more info than anyone else ever has. I even contacted some at the Society a few times and no…</p>
<p>Thanks for the information Jeff. I have always wondered about it. It's one of the few things I actually kept from my childhood because I had never seen another one. Do you have any idea of the value of such an oddity? I know you have not seen the condition in person and I am no expert in condition buy any means, but I think it's in pretty good condition.</p>
<p>I truly appreciate you giving me more info than anyone else ever has. I even contacted some at the Society a few times and no one had ever even heard of it. I obviously never talked to the right people.</p>
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<p>Thanks again for the help!</p>
<p>Chris</p>
<p></p> All three are actual magazine…tag:ngscollectors.ning.com,2015-03-06:1029239:Comment:1033802015-03-06T17:59:42.357ZJeffry Personshttp://ngscollectors.ning.com/profile/JeffryPersons
<p>All three are actual magazines like yours. I am not into photography, but I believe that Kromekote is a type of photographic process that is applied to the paper used for the cover. In this case it was to enhance the hologram, which it did when I compare it to the one I received through the mail. I believe that all of these were obtained originally from Howard Paine the Art Director for the Society. I would imagine that there was only a handful (less than 10 and that's a guess with the…</p>
<p>All three are actual magazines like yours. I am not into photography, but I believe that Kromekote is a type of photographic process that is applied to the paper used for the cover. In this case it was to enhance the hologram, which it did when I compare it to the one I received through the mail. I believe that all of these were obtained originally from Howard Paine the Art Director for the Society. I would imagine that there was only a handful (less than 10 and that's a guess with the exception of the Kromekote which was 4-5) printed and never got into circulation like yours did.</p>
<p>I also have a silver foil test copy for the 1988 hologram issue. They decided not to use it and opted for the gold foil. I also have a double signature for that same issue.</p>
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<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jeff</p> I am still around! I was als…tag:ngscollectors.ning.com,2015-03-06:1029239:Comment:1033792015-03-06T17:31:32.756ZChris McIlwainhttp://ngscollectors.ning.com/profile/ChrisMcIlwain
<p>I am still around! I was also very surprised to here a little information on this as well. </p>
<p>I am still around! I was also very surprised to here a little information on this as well. </p> Hi Jeff,
That is awesome! S…tag:ngscollectors.ning.com,2015-03-06:1029239:Comment:1035482015-03-06T17:07:14.863ZChris McIlwainhttp://ngscollectors.ning.com/profile/ChrisMcIlwain
<p>Hi Jeff,</p>
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<p>That is awesome! So you received these from someone that worked at NG? Do you know anymore about how many were printed? When you say you have a copy on Kromekote cover stock do you mean like a photo copy? Is both your misprinted holograms the actual magazine like mine?</p>
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<p>Thanks for posting a reply!</p>
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<p>Chirs</p>
<p>Hi Jeff,</p>
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<p>That is awesome! So you received these from someone that worked at NG? Do you know anymore about how many were printed? When you say you have a copy on Kromekote cover stock do you mean like a photo copy? Is both your misprinted holograms the actual magazine like mine?</p>
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<p>Thanks for posting a reply!</p>
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<p>Chirs</p> Chris,
I have the same mispr…tag:ngscollectors.ning.com,2015-03-06:1029239:Comment:1035422015-03-06T15:47:53.454ZJeffry Personshttp://ngscollectors.ning.com/profile/JeffryPersons
<p>Chris,</p>
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<p>I have the same misprint that you do as well as a misprint where only one-half of the hologram is present. I also have a copy of the same issue using Kromekote cover stock. I don't know how well this will show but it vastly enhances the quality of the hologram. It gives it more "punch". That issue was obtained from Roger Nathan through Howard Paine, the Art Director for the Society as a gift for giving Howard some Eisenhower items. There were only a handful…</p>
<p>Chris,</p>
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<p>I have the same misprint that you do as well as a misprint where only one-half of the hologram is present. I also have a copy of the same issue using Kromekote cover stock. I don't know how well this will show but it vastly enhances the quality of the hologram. It gives it more "punch". That issue was obtained from Roger Nathan through Howard Paine, the Art Director for the Society as a gift for giving Howard some Eisenhower items. There were only a handful printed.</p>
<p>Sorry about the quality of the scans but this is my first try and they did not come out as well as they should.</p>
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<p>Jeff</p> Jeff,
Boy, you sure are digg…tag:ngscollectors.ning.com,2015-03-05:1029239:Comment:1033442015-03-05T03:19:47.987ZScott T. Shierhttp://ngscollectors.ning.com/profile/ScottTShier
<p>Jeff,</p>
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<p>Boy, you sure are digging back into the old threads and having fun! That's great...I'm glad you are looking things over.</p>
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<p>I'm not confident Chris M. is "still around", and may/may not ever reply. I can give you a hint though: his picture above was simply scanned on a printer/scanner/copier (aka 3-in-1's).</p>
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<p>It's tricky to get good photos of the holograms. You need regular daylight, indirect, and put the magazine on a stand or holder, and…</p>
<p>Jeff,</p>
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<p>Boy, you sure are digging back into the old threads and having fun! That's great...I'm glad you are looking things over.</p>
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<p>I'm not confident Chris M. is "still around", and may/may not ever reply. I can give you a hint though: his picture above was simply scanned on a printer/scanner/copier (aka 3-in-1's).</p>
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<p>It's tricky to get good photos of the holograms. You need regular daylight, indirect, and put the magazine on a stand or holder, and usually, you are best off not to aim dead-on or dead-center, hold the camera at a slight angle to the hologram face . . . flash usually will not help bring out the detail and "3d-ness".</p>
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<p>- Scott</p>
<p></p> Chris,
I also have some error…tag:ngscollectors.ning.com,2015-03-05:1029239:Comment:1034242015-03-05T03:10:27.537ZJeffry Personshttp://ngscollectors.ning.com/profile/JeffryPersons
<p>Chris,</p>
<p><em>I also have some errors of the hologram issues (one exactly like yours and another with half the hologram missing and just white and another using Kromekote cover stock), but I cannot seem to take as good a picture of them as you have. Can you please give me an idea of how to do it? With a flash or without etc.</em></p>
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<p><em>Thank you very much,</em></p>
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<p><em>Jeff Persons</em></p>
<p>Chris,</p>
<p><em>I also have some errors of the hologram issues (one exactly like yours and another with half the hologram missing and just white and another using Kromekote cover stock), but I cannot seem to take as good a picture of them as you have. Can you please give me an idea of how to do it? With a flash or without etc.</em></p>
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<p><em>Thank you very much,</em></p>
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<p><em>Jeff Persons</em></p> Hi Jean and Scott!
You don't…tag:ngscollectors.ning.com,2010-08-02:1029239:Comment:309352010-08-02T14:55:15.571ZChris McIlwainhttp://ngscollectors.ning.com/profile/ChrisMcIlwain
Hi Jean and Scott!<br />
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You don't know how happy I am to finally get some information on this NGM.<br />
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Since getting this issue in the mail as a child I knew it was something cool. I am glad I was smart enough to stash is somewhere fairly safe and that it's in such good condition. I am keeping it in a plastic sleeve and in a fireproof cabinet now.<br />
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I wish I could show it to you guys in person. If you ever come to Northern California, please look me up and maybe we can get together and I'll show you…
Hi Jean and Scott!<br />
<br />
You don't know how happy I am to finally get some information on this NGM.<br />
<br />
Since getting this issue in the mail as a child I knew it was something cool. I am glad I was smart enough to stash is somewhere fairly safe and that it's in such good condition. I am keeping it in a plastic sleeve and in a fireproof cabinet now.<br />
<br />
I wish I could show it to you guys in person. If you ever come to Northern California, please look me up and maybe we can get together and I'll show you the NGM.<br />
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Thanks again for your inputs and have a great day!<br />
Chris